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	<title>Comments on: Can you &#8220;prove a negative&#8221; to demonstrate Return on Security Investment (ROSI)?</title>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://spiresecurity.com/?p=283&#038;cpage=1#comment-388</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Gustavo -

They don&#039;t talk about ROSI directly, since the topic is not information security, but they are essentially performing the same calculations that ROSI requires.

The challenge with ROSI is that it is difficult to say how much risk was reduced. With the LoJack scenario, they quantified the risk savings - this is the &quot;prove a negative&quot; problem we have.

The broader point is that you can prove a negative if you have two or more groups to compare - one with the control measure and one without.

Hope this helps.

Pete
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Gustavo -</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t talk about ROSI directly, since the topic is not information security, but they are essentially performing the same calculations that ROSI requires.</p>
<p>The challenge with ROSI is that it is difficult to say how much risk was reduced. With the LoJack scenario, they quantified the risk savings &#8211; this is the &#8220;prove a negative&#8221; problem we have.</p>
<p>The broader point is that you can prove a negative if you have two or more groups to compare &#8211; one with the control measure and one without.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
<p>Pete</p>
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		<title>By: Gustavo Bittencourt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gustavo Bittencourt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi

I read the paper and I couldn&#039;t find any reference about ROI (or ROSI) on it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>I read the paper and I couldn&#8217;t find any reference about ROI (or ROSI) on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Weber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kristof gives more numbers here, for those who can&#039;t get through the paywall but want more specifics:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/opinion/28kristof.html?ex=1277611200&amp;en=54885fd31890c085&amp;ei=5090&amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;emc=rss


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristof gives more numbers here, for those who can&#8217;t get through the paywall but want more specifics:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/opinion/28kristof.html?ex=1277611200&#038;en=54885fd31890c085&#038;ei=5090&#038;partner=rssuserland&#038;emc=rss" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/opinion/28kristof.html?ex=1277611200&#038;en=54885fd31890c085&#038;ei=5090&#038;partner=rssuserland&#038;emc=rss</a></p>
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