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	<title>Comments on: Spyware Vendors Fight Back</title>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really have no problem with this legislation. I think it is more likely to force definitions and without it, we would be stuck in ambiguity. We often legislate broadly and let the courts interpret, as far as I can tell.

I don&#039;t think this stuff is THAT hard in most cases (I am aware of the tracking cookies issue but most spyware solutions I&#039;ve used lately are very clear about that, and you can deselect them from your scan).

As I mentioned in my post, what will be more interesting to me is the notion of consent. I believe there are plenty of people out there who install software and yet don&#039;t really understand the nature of what the software is doing yet will consent to it nonetheless, simply by clicking the &quot;I accept&quot; button and not reading the policy/license/terms of use.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really have no problem with this legislation. I think it is more likely to force definitions and without it, we would be stuck in ambiguity. We often legislate broadly and let the courts interpret, as far as I can tell.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think this stuff is THAT hard in most cases (I am aware of the tracking cookies issue but most spyware solutions I&#8217;ve used lately are very clear about that, and you can deselect them from your scan).</p>
<p>As I mentioned in my post, what will be more interesting to me is the notion of consent. I believe there are plenty of people out there who install software and yet don&#8217;t really understand the nature of what the software is doing yet will consent to it nonetheless, simply by clicking the &#8220;I accept&#8221; button and not reading the policy/license/terms of use.</p>
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		<title>By: Darrin Wassom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrin Wassom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 01:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wholly concur with Stu&#039;s assertion that a definition of spyware is needed before any solutions can be offered. I think Pete would agree that if it isn&#039;t defined then it can&#039;t be measured..... take it one step further and without definition, it can&#039;t be legislated.

Most, if not all, anti-spyware products fall squarely into the FUD camp. Fear, uncertainty and doubt works once, IMHO, and quickly loses any shred of respect. Sure, it is tempting to run to management with a report from any spyware product and receive money to &quot;take care of the problem&quot; but how many times will that work?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wholly concur with Stu&#8217;s assertion that a definition of spyware is needed before any solutions can be offered. I think Pete would agree that if it isn&#8217;t defined then it can&#8217;t be measured&#8230;.. take it one step further and without definition, it can&#8217;t be legislated.</p>
<p>Most, if not all, anti-spyware products fall squarely into the FUD camp. Fear, uncertainty and doubt works once, IMHO, and quickly loses any shred of respect. Sure, it is tempting to run to management with a report from any spyware product and receive money to &#8220;take care of the problem&#8221; but how many times will that work?</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Berman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart Berman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2005 03:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d love to see more definition around spyware, as long as there is so much ambiguity resolution seems far away.

It is annoying how reputable antispyware products identify so many benign cookies as SPYWARE! (See how much we need their products and how much damage is being done to our systems?) At a minimum the more credible companies would break down miscreants into distinct buckets like: cookies, adware delivery, keystroke logging, redirectors, unknown.

Then at least we can&#039;t be accused of crying wolf (as often as we seem to).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to see more definition around spyware, as long as there is so much ambiguity resolution seems far away.</p>
<p>It is annoying how reputable antispyware products identify so many benign cookies as SPYWARE! (See how much we need their products and how much damage is being done to our systems?) At a minimum the more credible companies would break down miscreants into distinct buckets like: cookies, adware delivery, keystroke logging, redirectors, unknown.</p>
<p>Then at least we can&#8217;t be accused of crying wolf (as often as we seem to).</p>
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