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	<title>Comments on: Certifications are good; Licenses are bad</title>
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		<title>By: MikeA</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Licenses wouldn&#039;t be a bad thing if software engineering/security engineering were a &quot;profession&quot; rather than just a &quot;job&quot; to many.  I think that if we (could) have the same level of &quot;due care&quot; or &quot;professional standards&quot; that other professions like structural engineers, lawyers, various medial professionals, we&#039;d have a &quot;step up&quot; on the quality of what we see.

However, because of our relative immaturity as a profession (we&#039;re what, 60 years old as a &quot;profession&quot; in software right now?), this isn&#039;t right to even *think* about this IMO right now - we have to many other challenges and need to define the profession more.  This is a whole new can of worms that is a separate discussion :)

I don&#039;t see licenses as a barrier to entry - more the case of &quot;the person who has this license will do/meet at least this level of work&quot;, and a &quot;standard of conduct&quot; which I think would help.  Many certificates I see out there are practically useless for many reasons (rote learning is a big one for me).  Having an apprenticeship scheme is an interesting idea
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Licenses wouldn&#8217;t be a bad thing if software engineering/security engineering were a &#8220;profession&#8221; rather than just a &#8220;job&#8221; to many.  I think that if we (could) have the same level of &#8220;due care&#8221; or &#8220;professional standards&#8221; that other professions like structural engineers, lawyers, various medial professionals, we&#8217;d have a &#8220;step up&#8221; on the quality of what we see.</p>
<p>However, because of our relative immaturity as a profession (we&#8217;re what, 60 years old as a &#8220;profession&#8221; in software right now?), this isn&#8217;t right to even *think* about this IMO right now &#8211; we have to many other challenges and need to define the profession more.  This is a whole new can of worms that is a separate discussion <img src='http://spiresecurity.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see licenses as a barrier to entry &#8211; more the case of &#8220;the person who has this license will do/meet at least this level of work&#8221;, and a &#8220;standard of conduct&#8221; which I think would help.  Many certificates I see out there are practically useless for many reasons (rote learning is a big one for me).  Having an apprenticeship scheme is an interesting idea</p>
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